Jiddu Krishnamurti on Enlightenment


What is enlightenment?

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What is enlightenment?

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Again, it’s one of those words that have
come from India.

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To be enlightened.

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To be enlightened about what?

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Please let’s be rational.

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Not irrational.

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When I say I’m enlightened, I’m enlightened about what?

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Say for instance, I’m enlightened about
my relationship with another.

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That is, I’ve understood my relationship with another is based on my image about the other,

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however intimate.

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That image has been put together through many years…

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that constant reaction,

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indifference, comfort, you follow?

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The nagging, all that with man and woman.

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So the image is built.

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And she has built an image about you.

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So the relationship is between the two images.

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Which is obvious and that’s what we call
a relationship.

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Now, I perceive the truth of it, and I say
I’m enlightened about it.

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I’m enlightened about violence.

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I see clearly without any distortion, with
clear eyes,

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…the whole movement of violence.

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I see how sorrow arises.

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And the ending of sorrow is I’m enlightened
about it.

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But we don’t mean that.

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Right?

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We mean something else.

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“I am enlightened, I’ll tell you about
it, come to me.”

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And you rather gullible and say “yes tell
me all about it.”

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Sir?…

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I don’t know if you’re interested.

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See we must understand If we really go into what enlightenment,

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illumination,

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the…

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The voice of truth

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Not my voice

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The voice of truth

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We must go carefully

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…into

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…the question of time.

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The so-called enlightened people

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…have said that you come to it through time,

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…gradually,

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life after life – if you believe in reincarnation

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– and come to the point when I’m enlightened about everything!

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Right?

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Which is…

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It’s a gradual process…

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…of experience,

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…knowledge

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…a constant movement from the past to the present and future, the cycle.

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Right?

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So is? If you’re interested in it…

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Is enlightenment, the ultimate thing,

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…a matter of time?

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Is it?

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I hope you aren’t bored by this are you?

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Is it a gradual process?

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Which means, the process of time.

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The process of evolution.

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The gradual becoming that…

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You follow?

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So one must understand the nature of time.

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Not the chronological time,

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…but the psychological structure which has accepted time.

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You following this?

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That is…

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“I hope ultimately to get there”.

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The desire, which is part of hope,

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…ultimately says “I will get there.”

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And the so-called enlightened, people and they are not.

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Because the moment they say, “I am enlightened”, they are not!

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That is their vanity.

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It is like a man saying, “I am really humble.”

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When a man says that you know what it is

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Humility is not the opposite of vanity.

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When vanity ends the other is.

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Those people who have said they are enlightened,

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…say you must go through, step by step.

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Practice this, do that, don’t do this; become my pupil, I’ll tell you what to do,

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I’ll give you an Indian name, or a Christian new name, and so on so on so on.

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And you, kind of irrational human being, accept this nonsense.

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So you ask, what is that supreme enlightenment?

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You understand the meaning of that word?

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A mind that has…

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Has no conflict.

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No sense of…

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striving, of moving, moving and achieving.

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So we must understand this question of time, which is, the constant becoming, or not becoming

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– which is the same.

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Right?

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The becoming and the not becoming.

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And when that becoming is rooted in the mind,

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…that becoming conditions all your thinking.

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All your activity.

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then, it is a matter of using time as a means of becoming, achieving.

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But, is there such a thing as becoming?

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You understand?

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“I am violent, I will be non-violent”.

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That is becoming,

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…an idea!

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Right?

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I am violent and the non-violence. I project the idea of not being violent,

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…because, so I create duality; the violent

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and non-violent, and so there is conflict.

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Then I say, “I must control myself, I must
suppress, I must analyse, I must go to a psychologist, I must go to a psychotherapist and so on, so on.

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Without creating the opposite, the non-violence,

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…the fact is violence. Not non-violence.

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Right?

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The Fact.

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The non-violence is non-fact.

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If you get that once, the truth…

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That is I am violent. The concept of non-violence brings about this conflict between the opp osites.

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The non-fact, has no value.

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Only the fact.

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Now to observe the whole movement of violence:

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anger, jealousy, hate, competition, imitation, conformity, and so on and so on.

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To observe it without any direction, without any motive.

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Right?

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Then,

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If you do that, then there is the end of violence, which is an immediate perception and action.

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I wonder if you understand this.

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So, one can see that illumination, the sense of ultimate reality and so on, is not of time.

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This goes against the whole psychological, religious world.

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The Christians with their

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souls, with their saviours, with their ultimate, etc, etc.

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I say, we say,

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perception is action.

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Not perception, great interval, and then action.

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In that interval, you create the idea.

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Right?

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Are you following all this?

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Can the mind, the brain, you know the whole human nervous structure

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as well as psychological structure be free of this burden of million years of time?

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So that, you see something clearly

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and actions invariably immediate!

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That action will be rational, not irrational.

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That action can be explained logically, sanely.

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So we are saying, that ultimate thing which is truth, is not to be achieved through time.

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